— The Mosin Nagant Project – [Part Two]

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Where last we left off (Click Here For Part One) we brought together all the components required to make the rifle operational.  We installed the scope mount.  We cut the barrel down.  Now, we’re finishing it up with the stock.  We’ll shoot it and then we’ll recalculate how much we actually spent on the project.

Archangel Stock

This Stock is the final component on this Mosin Nagant rifle and is the single product that led to the initiation of this project.  Like Millions of Americans who have Mosin Nagant’s sitting around that they don’t fire regularly, this stock adds a bit of relevance to a rifle that was perhaps purchased for the mere fact that ‘Mosins are kinda cool, historic, and cheap to operate.

IMG_3678ProMag is a company that’s been around for awhile that makes any manner of accessories for firearms. From magazines to stocks, they make it all. And now they’ve taken on one of the most popular military surplus rifle’s currently in the US Market.  They’ve created a stock that is versatile, has a adjustable cheek riser and length of pull.  It is modern-looking, durable, and comfortable.  Unpacking the stock from its shipping box, makes it seem as though you’ve just made an excellent decision.  The stock is distinctive, heavier than expected and well thought out.  The quality is excellent, craftsmanship is great, and all of this high quality synthetic stock comes in for only $199. 

Initial installation took some lubrication and patience.  Being the first time a rifle has been pushed into the stock, it was extremely tight, but some WD-40 into the bolt holes allowed the stock to be tightened on the initial instance.

NOTE: For all of you Traditionalists, you don’t have to cut your ‘Mosin up or drill any holes into it.  You can keep your original stock and switch between the original and Archangel stock whenever you please.

How Did It Come Out? – Let’s Not Waste Time!

before and afterGreat!!!   Once, the business components of the barrel/receiver are combined with the stock, you have a rifle that looks, well, I’ll leave that to the eye-of-the-beholder.  I personally like it although, I love the look of a stock Mosin Nagant.  It definitely does not look like a Mosin Nagant anymore until you get a bit closer.  With the barrel shortened, Proportions are far more natural, and modern.  The rifle actually looks like it is “supposed” to be this way.  Mosin’s normally look like they have a long barrel (because they do).  But, with the Archangel stock, overall feel and ergonomics are great.  The stock is adjustable, so you shouldn’t be stuck with a rifle that is not comfortable. The weight distribution is great.  With the Center Of Gravity, moved right in front of the magazine well, you can actually hold the rifle up and aim with one hand (not that you would), but this is something, you’d NEVER be able to do with a stock Mosin.

How does it shoot?  Spectacularly!

After firing off 40 rounds to sight it in (for the most part), my shoulder was healthy and NOT in pain.  The Timney Trigger is so soft and predictable, you feel like you’re shooting some kind of modern rifle from Savage, Ruger, or mosinrRemington.  I literally could’ve fired for another hour and been fine; which as you know, is not the case normally.  This stock — its synthetic materials, and its built-in shoulder pad — absorb the recoil that would normally travel through the wooden stock, through the metal butt-plate, and into your shoulder.

Now, you’ve got a rifle that you’ll be proud of at the range.  It actually collected a bunch of positive attention from passersby and from the range officials.  And it has a bit of novelty to it. You’ll also be able to show people that it’s not only how much money you spend on a rifle, but what you spend it on that makes for a great project. You also get to fire a favorite rifle round, the 7.62X54 Rimmed (some call it “Russian”) round that has ballistics between a 30.06 and Winchester .308. But all for a quarter of the price to fire.

Total Build Costs

So Far with the Scope mount, Scope, Turned-down Bolt Handle, Scope Rings, and Timney Trigger we are at $464.  When we minus the parts sold on eBay for $70 [for the original stock, sling, rear sight parts, trigger parts, and front sight, front sight tool, butt plate, rubber butt plate extension, and the deadly bayonet].  This brings the total output of money for this rifle at $394.  Make it $438+$199 (Stock price) when you add in some “Harris-Style” bi-pod legs from Caldwell, purchased from Academy Sports for $44 smackeroos to finish it off.

Total Dollar output is $637.  Minus The Rifle Cost Itself.

What you need to pay attention to is the current price of Mosin’s.  Where you used to find them for 80 bucks, you now find them at $163 to $250+.  But, no doubt, you already have one that you’re not using (or else, why would you be reading this), and this may be the project for you.

Final Thoughts

Now! You can buy a new Bolt Action mosinRirifle such as a Remington 700 in .308 for around $650 bucks or so, but you will still need to buy a scope, and any modifications you want will obviously add to the price.  This would include the stock that you want to upgrade to.  In the end, this is a decision you’ll have to make for yourself. The argument will be, why buy an old classic car and rebuild it? Why don’t you just go buy a new car? You do this, because it’s fun, it’s a learning experience, it’s a challenge, and it’s merely an otherwise interesting thing to do, especially if you already have the Mosin Nagant.  And to be quite honest, If I’m gonna have a bolt action rifle, I’d rather have this than an [off-the-shelf] Remington 700.  Will it EVER be as accurate?  I doubt it!  Will it be cheaper to shoot?  Hells Yea [ALWAYS]!  Will it be more novel, interesting, and fun?  Definitely!

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Kali Pinckney


22 Comments Add yours

  1. John Goodman says:

    What groups are you now shooting at 100 yards?

    1. Kali says:

      It is getting groups of 2 inches, but, I believe it’s my lack of marksmanship skills with the scope. Every time I take it out the groups tighten. It is a blast to shoot though, “John Goodman”.

      1. John Goodman says:

        Hi Kali:

        The Archangel is done, for the most part. I like the result but am having some difficulty getting consistent groups. I think it is me and not the gun but I was almost as accurate with stock iron sites at 100 yards. I will try a stationary rifle vice to see just how accurate this rifle really is before going any further. Did you have to use the barrel tensioner or leave it free floating?

      2. Kali says:

        I did not use the tensioner. What I found (to be counter intuitive) was the scope power. If you have it dialed all the way up, I get some inconsistent groups. Try using lower power and then hit it again. It get tighter groups at 5power than 10power. I know that sounds dumb, but just try it and let me know what you find. And I use it on a sand bag instead of the bipod legs. But try it again and let me know what happens. I’m really curious, because I thought it was just me!

      3. Kali says:

        And lets see some pics when you get a chance..

  2. John Goodman says:

    Hi Kali:

    I have a nearly identical build in process and what remains is a scope. I was interested in your Pentax choice but when searching for technical data, there wasn’t much. Does the Pentax have re zero features on the turrets? Does the reticle hide your target or are the center lines thin enough to keep the target clear and open? Finally, how do you think this scope will perform out to 300 yards?


    1. Kali says:

      You are talking to the right person right now. Last week, I had to send it back to Pentax. It was working great…. until! Until the reticle spun. I don’t know if it is random or what, but the cross-hairs rotated about 45degrees. I know Mosins have a kick, but only after 161 rounds?? I’m going to treat it as an anomaly for now. But it was great while it lasted held zero over the entire POWER range.

  3. ggl205 says:

    Please keep me informed as to the outcome of your scope. I have more work to do on the build so a scope will be the last piece of the puzzle.


    1. Kali says:

      John, Scope came back this week. It is installed. Still have not hit the range yet for sighting. I am pretty impressed with it, and the service from Pentax. They advertise 4-6 week turnaround time but it took 3.5. This one seems like it may be later/newer version. It seems like it is a more evolved version than my first one. Will Shoot and post some targets soon.

  4. damian says:

    im looking to build one of tese mosins what are you shooting for moa?

    1. Kali says:

      Yea Damian. It’s doing great. I’m doing about 1.5-2 MOA at MY best. But one of the range masters at the range shot a better than 1MOA in only firing 5-rounds (the first/only group that he shot with my rifle. So apparently, I suck! and I’m not too happy about it. But the rifle itself is capable of sub-MOA.

  5. John Goodman says:

    Not sure how to post images in WordPress.

    1. Kali says:

      That’s a good point. If you want you can send it to me via email and I’ll post it with your description. That might be interesting to do. If you want, just do a quick write up with your thoughts and I’ll post it right on my 3rd page with mine.

  6. Anonymous says:

    Did the Pentax glass hold up?

    1. Kali says:

      No! it broke twice and I sent it back. It is now in my garage waiting for me to purchase a .22 (or something with little recoil). It is disappointing to say the least. If you look at the bottom of page 3 you’ll see the scope I went with.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Just picked one up an am very interested in your build… any regrets…

    1. Kali says:

      Absolutely none (besides the Pentax scope). I would spend the good money on a well made scope the first time. But I still love shooting it. It’s more fun (and powerful) than my SKS or AR for sure. And Cheaper as well.

  8. Anonymous says:

    I decided to go a more traditional route with the scope. I installed a Bushnell SS10X42 with mil spec retical. I have done nothing but fit a Rock Solid scope mount (un bedded) and the Archangel stock. I get MOA two shot groups with PPC ammo. Variation in the two shot groups are perplexing and will be looking for possible causes. Plans are to bed the scope mount, crown the barrel and look for stock fit issues. If that does not solve the problem, I will plug the barrel and see what ID I have.

    Like you said, it is a fun rifle to shoot and the ammo can be inexpensive if you use surplus. Too bad I cannot post an image or I would post one of my Mosin/Archangel.


    1. Kali says:

      Hey there. Send me a pic and a quick right up of what you did and I’ll post it up. I’m interested to see your project (as I’m sure others are as well).

  9. Troy says:

    Cool conversion, hey do you still have the band springs? and would you like to sell em?

    1. Kali says:

      Hey thanks. I love it. Unfortunately those were sold. Apparently lots of folks need extras.

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